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OW: Most outsiders think that native people are clandestine in their ceremonies and want
to keep them a secret, but I guess not in this case.
LUTHER: No, in the Amazon, not at all. They are very much looking to share the experience. The
next day , because I had such a fantastic vision, they sat down with me personally and wanted to know
"The Ultra Cinetic of the Spiritual Biorhythm"
© Pablo Cesar Amaringo
what I had seen and what I had heard, and they tried to guide me as to what the meaning was. They did
this for each person individually on the trip.
OW: How were you communicating with the shaman?
LUTHER: They spoke very limited English. There were people there that acted as interpreters.
OW: Do men and women alike partake?
LUTHER: Both. It is my understanding that if desired they can partake in ayahuasca twice a week.
But some of them don't partake in it at all.
Harmala alkaloids are little known to the psychedelic subculture in the U.S.,
although they are legal and are stocked by a number of chemical supply houses. These indolic compounds
should be of special psychedelic interest because of the highly specific character of the experiences they
produce. Unfortunately, the literature on this compound-cluster and Banisteriopsis use in the Amazonian
region is somewhat confusing: it describes several barks and leaves as well as a drink, which is made with
several different recipes and is activated by at least three chemical compounds. Each form has a number of
names, and sometimes the same name is used for both botanicals and beverages. In what follows,
ayahuasca (EYE-a-wasca) refers to the psychedelic species of Banisteriopsis, yage (yah-Hey) to the drink
made from their outer bark and harmaline to the primary psychedelic compound in the bark.
http://www.cnw.com/~neuro/gaz/fresh/encycay.htm
OW: They must have a really different perception of the world than we do!
LUTHER: Absolutely, they have an inner peace that I don't see in ourselves. When I got on the plane
to leave I had been living and visiting people who were supposedly savages, perhaps fearsome; but when
I looked at our Western counterparts with their eyes darting around everywhere that's where I saw the
savages. So my perception of savageness changed because in the Indians there was no savageness; but
the in the western world we acquire the savageness as a need and an instinct to survive.
OW: Did you want to try it again in two days?
LUTHER: Yes. After we were finished we got into the boats and went back and sat around drinking
a few Peruvian beers and talked about the experience. I shared what I had seen, and they shared that same
information with me. What they said was that I seemed to be healthy physically and emotionally which
was really positive for me. I thought I would do it again.
Prior to going on the trip I had been to see a spiritual person and we started talking about past lives. I
wanted to go back beyond the womb and I tried really hard to get there, but just couldn't seem to go back
any farther than that. The first experience, I just let it go the way it went. For the second one, when I tried
to get back further, I started experiencing images of things in my twenties. These baseball figures just
started coming at me and I couldn't get away from them. I knew that I was being explored by the shaman
too.
At this stage of the CEVs I had completely forgotten that I had a body. My
mind had detached itself from it and become a point in virtual brainspace. My field of vision increased
significantly, and I believe the reason for not being able to remember a majority of these visuals is that
there was just too much information to remember; it was too detailed, too intense and was arriving at a
frightening rate.
http://www.herbweb.com/tryptamines/34.htm
OW: So you're off to your next adventure--not as hallucinogenic this time perhaps.
LUTHER: Yes, we're going to Africa, where by the way I'm told there was a kind of drink that you
used to be able to buy over the counter until a few years ago, that was like ayahuasca. But no, this is not
that kind of a trip. I am interested in exploring the possibilities of traveling to Nepal, though, where they
have a similar shamanistic tradition that I can partake in.
OW: Ahh, your mountain top.
LUTHER: Yes.
OW: Have a nice trip.
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From "Ayahuasca Visions: The Religious Iconography of a Peruvian Shaman"
(A publication of outstanding paintings of ayahuasca visions
experienced by a native medicine man, Pablo Amaringo, and
interpreted by distinguished anthropologist, Luis Eduardo Luna)
The spaceship motif has an important place in Pablo's visions. As we
saw earlier, when the curandera who cured his sister gave him
ayahuasca, Pablo saw a huge flying saucer making a tremendous noise
that made him panic
(Vision 7).
Don Manuel Amaringo, Pablo's older
brother, has a similar story. He told me - with tears in his eyes - that
the main icaro he employed to cure many people he learned from a
fairy called Altos Cielos Nieves Tenebrosas, who came in a blue
spaceship:
She asked me: 'Do you want to listen to my song?' She sang and that
song I have always kept in my heart.In spite of the frequency with which Pablo depicts spaceships, he is sparse in
his commentary about them. Pablo says that these vehicles may take many shapes, are able to attain
infinite speed, and can travel underwater or under the earth.
The beings travelling in them are like spirits,
having bodies more subtle than ours, appearing and disappearing at will. They belong to advanced
extraterrestrial civilizations that live in perfect harmony. Great Amerindian civilizations like the Maya,
Tiahuanaco, and Inca had contact with these beings.
Pablo says that he saw in his journeys with ayahuasca
that the Maya knew about this brew, and that they left for other worlds at some point in their history, but
are about to return to this planet. In fact he says that some of the flying saucers seen by people today are
piloted by Maya wise men."
...French anthropologist Francoise Barbira-Freedman, who did extensive
work among the Lamista of San Martin province, told me that among
her shaman informants spaceship sightings in ayahuasca were common.
When I visited Don Manuel Shuna, Pablo's uncle, a vegetalista more
than 90 years old, I showed his several photographs of Pablo's
paintings. Pointing to the flying saucer in one of the photographs he
told me with excitement, almost with stress, that the last two years he
had been haunted by people coming out of machines like that. He said
that these people fly standing slightly above the surface of the water.
...Flying is one of the most common themes of shamanism anywhere.
The shaman may transform himself into a bird, insect, or a winged
being, or be taken by an animal or being into other realms.
Contemporary shamans sometimes use metaphors based on modern
innovations to express the idea of flying. Thus it is not strange that the
UFO motif, which is part of modern imagery - perhaps, as proposed by
Jung (1959), even an archetypal expression of our times - is used by
shamans as a device for spiritual transportation into other worlds.
The flying saucers, extraterrestrial beings, and intergalactic civilizations that
appear in Pablo's paintings should not necessarily be considered
unusual or extraneous to Amazonian shamanism; they may be
manifestations of old motifs.
Descriptions of shamanic journeys under
the influence of ayahuasca and other psychotropic plants, even among
culturally isolated Amazonian tribes, frequently include the idea of a
shaman ascending to heaven to mingle with heavenly people or,
conversely, celestial beings descending to the place of the ceremony.
The Ayahuasca-Alien Connection: Ayahuasca Visions
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